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In this article
Why you do not need a finished plan before you call anyone, and what to bring instead.
Which bathroom decisions have a hard deadline, and what each one costs to change late.
The Phoenix slab problem, and the $8,000 to $15,000 riding on where your drain sits.
How long design really takes here, when the price stops moving, and who we are wrong for.
How Do You Plan a Bathroom Remodel? | Hochuli Design & Remodeling Team
A bathroom remodel plan is not a picture of a finished room. It is a set of decisions, each with a deadline, settled before anyone swings a hammer. Where the plumbing sits, how the shower is built, what the tile does, where the light comes from. In Phoenix, most homes sit on a slab, so the plumbing decision locks the day the concrete gets cut. A bathroom here runs $30,000 to $200,000 and up, and the gap between those two numbers is mostly decisions, not taste.
Last updated: October 2026
You have been looking at that bathroom for a while now. Maybe years. You know the tile you hate and the drawer that catches, and you have a rough idea of what you want instead, and every time you get close to calling somebody you stall out on the same thought: I do not know enough to have this conversation yet.
You've put this off for years. We get it.
Here is the thing almost nobody tells you. You are not stalling because you lack a plan. You are stalling because nobody has told you what a plan actually is, so you assume it is a finished picture you are supposed to arrive with. It is not. It is a list of decisions, and the only thing that matters is which ones have a deadline.
Why does the smallest room in the house cause the biggest problems?
A bathroom is often under 100 square feet and it is the most expensive square footage you will ever build. Every trade in the business shows up in it. Demolition, framing, plumbing, electrical, drywall, tile, glass, cabinetry, stone, paint, finish carpentry. All of them, in a room the size of a parking space, in a sequence where each one is waiting on the one before it.
That density is what makes a bathroom unforgiving. In a kitchen, if a decision runs late, there is usually somewhere else on the job for a crew to work. In a bathroom there is nowhere else. One undecided item stops the room.
It is also the room you feel the most. Losing your kitchen is the hardest common remodel to live through, and the primary bathroom is right beside it. There is something about a primary bathroom remodel that adds an extra layer of discomfort to the whole thing, because it is the first room you use every morning and the last one at night.
So the room is small, the work is dense, and living through it is uncomfortable. That combination is why planning carries more weight here than anywhere else in the house.
What does a bathroom remodel plan actually include?
Six things. If you have these settled, you have a plan. If you have a mood board and an investment number, you have a wish.
Layout and plumbing locationsWhere the toilet, shower, tub, and vanity physically sit. Not roughly. Exactly.
Shower constructionAlcove with a prefabricated pan, or curbless with a linear drain. Framed glass or frameless. Niche or no niche, and where.
Vanity and storageSize, height, single or double, drawer configuration, stock, semi custom, or full custom.
SurfacesTile for the floor, the walls, the shower, and how each pattern is laid. Stone for the counter. Grout color, which sounds small and is not.
Lighting and electricalWhere the light comes from, what temperature it is, what is on a dimmer, and which circuits are new. Lorrie is firm about this one. Side sconces at eye level do the work that overhead cans cannot, and 90+ CRI is what keeps makeup from looking right at the mirror and wrong in daylight.
That is somewhere between forty and eighty individual choices for one bathroom. When we run a project, those get settled in the design phase, on paper, priced as they are chosen. Nobody hands you a list and a placeholder number and wishes you luck at the tile showroom.
The National Kitchen & Bath Association publishes planning guidelines for most of these, from clearances to fixture spacing, and they are worth a look if you want to understand what a designer is checking against while you are talking.
Which decisions have to be settled before demolition?
Not all of them. That is the useful part, and it is what turns a paralyzing list into a manageable one. Some decisions can be made in week four. Some are already permanent by the end of week one.
When each bathroom decision locks, and what a late change costs
Decision
When it locks
What changing it later costs
Plumbing locations
The day the slab is cut
$8,000 to $15,000 to cut and pour again
Wall and window changes
Framing
Reframe, reroute anything inside the wall, new inspection
Electrical and lighting layout
Rough in, before drywall
Open finished drywall, patch, repaint
Shower pan type
Waterproofing
Tear out the pan and start the shower over
Tile layout and pattern
The day tile starts
Tile is not salvageable once it is set
Vanity size
The order date
Custom cabinetry lead times run weeks, and the room waits
Faucet and hardware finish
Trim out
Usually just a return, and the least expensive change on this list
Read that last column from top to bottom. The costly decisions are all in the first two weeks, and the flexible ones are all at the end. This is exactly backwards from how most people plan, because the fun decisions are the late ones. Hardware finish is a delight to choose. Drain location is not. So people spend their energy on hardware and let the drain get decided by default.
The one at the top is the Phoenix specific one. Most homes here are built on a concrete slab, so relocating a toilet, a shower drain, or a vanity means cutting the concrete, rerouting the drain, and pouring it back. That is $8,000 to $15,000 on a typical project. Sometimes it is worth every dollar, and we have moved plenty of them. What you cannot do is move it for nothing, and you cannot move it after the tile is down.
Many bathroom remodels that move plumbing, add or alter electrical work, or change walls require permits, while simple fixture replacements may not. Permitting also runs on its own clock. The City of Phoenix residential project guidance is the place to start, and every surrounding city runs its own process, so a project in Tempe and the same project in Scottsdale can sit on different timelines.
How long does planning a bathroom remodel take in Phoenix?
For us, typically 6 to 10 weeks from the day the design agreement is signed to the day construction starts.
People are surprised by that, because it is often longer than the construction itself. A hall or guest bath usually runs 4 to 6 weeks of construction. A primary runs 6 to 10, longer if walls are moving. Those are construction timelines only, not the whole project.
Spending more time on paper than in the room sounds inefficient right up until you have watched the alternative. The decisions made in those 6 to 10 weeks are what the next fifteen to twenty years of that bathroom depend on. Done carefully on paper, construction is calm and the schedule holds. Done in a hurry, every one of them comes back as a problem in the middle of the job, at the worst possible moment, with a crew standing in your hallway.
We would rather take an extra two weeks in design than rush you into a regret.
Do you need to know what you want before you call a contractor?
No. And the earlier version of this article, which we wrote in 2016, told you the opposite. It said to develop a plan and have a number in mind before you ever sit down with a design build contractor.
I would like that one back.
It is not that preparation hurts. Save the images, note what you hate about the room you have, think about how you use it in the morning. That is useful and it makes the first conversation better. But building the plan is our job, not yours. If you could produce a complete bathroom plan on your own, you would not need a designer, and asking you to arrive with one is asking you to do the hardest part of the work before you have hired anybody to help you.
What you should bring is the problem, not the solution. "We cannot both be in here at once and there is nowhere to set anything down" is more useful to Lorrie than "we want a double vanity," because the first one has several answers and the second one has already picked one, possibly the wrong one.
Lorrie has been doing this for more than twenty four years, she is Allied ASID, and her particular gift is finding the theme running through a pile of inspiration images that the homeowner has not consciously noticed yet. That only works if she gets to see the pile. Bring the mess.
When does the price stop moving?
This is the question underneath the other questions, and most remodelers will not answer it, so here is ours.
The price stops moving when the plan is finished, and that happens in the design phase, before construction is agreed to. We call that phase the Project Development Agreement. It is a paid phase, because design work by working designers is real work. What you get out of it is a complete set of decisions and a fixed price built from those decisions. Fixed price, fixed remodeling agreement, everything in writing before a nail is driven.
Two practices we do not use, and you should ask any remodeler you are considering about both.
No allowances
An allowance is a placeholder price for a decision nobody has made yet. It lets a company hand you an attractive number today and collect the difference later, once you have picked the tile you actually want. If the agreement carries allowances, the number on it is not the number you pay.
No contingency funds
A contingency line is a pre agreed pot of money for unknowns, and it quietly removes the pressure to plan completely in the first place. Our answer to unknowns is a finished plan, and then a change order with a photograph if something is truly found behind a wall.
Mistakes we make are ours. They never become a change order. Ask whoever you are talking to who pays when the error is theirs, and get the answer in writing.
What does it cost when a decision lands late?
Plumbing stays$0 added
Same finished bathroom. No slab cutting, no reroute, no patch, no added inspection. This is the single largest lever available to you.
Plumbing moves$8,000 to $15,000
Cut the slab, reroute the drain, pour it back. Right for plenty of projects and worth every dollar on some. Wrong as an accident.
Beyond the slab, a late decision moves the number two ways. There is the direct cost of the change, and a written change order on one of our projects typically runs $2,000 to $5,000. Then there is the cost of the room sitting still while the change gets priced and the material gets ordered, which never shows up as a line item and always shows up in your life.
For context on the whole picture, a bathroom in this market runs $30,000 to $200,000 and up. An Essential hall bath, existing layout, plumbing staying put, lands around $30,000 to $45,000. A primary in the All In range, walls moving, curbless shower, full custom cabinetry, runs $85,000 to $200,000 and up. The full breakdown by tier is on our bathroom remodel cost page, and if you want a preliminary range for your own room, the bathroom cost estimator takes about five minutes.
One more piece of context that explains why these numbers are what they are. A bathroom is roughly 60% labor, and skilled trade wages in Phoenix are up about 20% since 2019. Bathroom costs here are up roughly 50% in that same window. Materials settled down. Wages did not, and wages do not go backward.
Who is this approach wrong for?
Some people should not hire us, and it is better for everybody if we say so here rather than eight weeks in.
If you love sourcing, if you want to hunt your own slab and negotiate your own tile, a company that works on allowances will let you do that and may cost you less. That is a real preference and there is nothing wrong with it. It is not how we work.
If you want to start Monday, we are the wrong call. Design takes 6 to 10 weeks first.
If you want a stand alone powder room, we are probably not your team either. Our minimum for a stand alone bathroom project is $30,000, and a powder room rarely reaches that on its own. When one is part of a larger project we love including them, and they are often the most interesting room in the house.
And sometimes it comes apart later. Lorrie once had to call a client partway through design to say that the materials she wanted did not fit the investment she had set, and that we were not going to absorb the difference to make it work. That is an uncomfortable phone call. She made it anyway, they talked it through, and together they decided we were not the right fit for each other.
Nobody lost anything but a few weeks, which is a far better outcome than finding out during construction.
Not every project is our project, and that's okay.
$30,000 stand alone bathroom minimum6 to 10 weeks of design firstNo allowances, no contingency fundsOur errors are absorbed, never charged
One last thing worth planning for, because it has nothing to do with tile. Living through a bathroom remodel is a real thing and we do not pretend otherwise. The constraint is plumbing, not project size, so a small bathroom can force a move out that a large kitchen never would.
We work that out before demolition rather than during it, which is the same principle as everything else on this page.
Phoenix area homeowners have been writing about what it is like to work with us for years. You can read our reviews on Google and judge for yourself.
Bathroom planning questions, answered
None of it. Bring the problem, some images you like, and a rough sense of what you want to invest. The plan gets built with you during design, and building it is the work you are hiring us for.
Yes, and people do. What changes is the cost of changing your mind, and it climbs steeply once the trade that would be affected has already worked. A finish swap before ordering is nothing. A drain move after the slab is patched is the most expensive change available in a bathroom.
If you are touching plumbing, electrical, or structure, almost certainly. Swapping a vanity and retiling in place is often a different story. Every Valley city runs its own process, so the answer depends on where you live and what you are moving. We handle permitting on our projects.
Usually, if it is not your only bathroom. The constraint is plumbing, not project size. Losing a hall bath is survivable. Losing the only shower in the house forces a move out, and a small project can force one that a large project would not.
Sometimes. If the rest of the room is in good shape, a shower only project is a clean, contained scope. More often, a new shower next to a twenty year old vanity and yellowed grout makes everything around it look worse, and people come back within the year asking about the rest. Worth thinking through before you decide.
Who is telling you this
Scott has been remodeling Phoenix homes since 1992, is a past president of the Greater Phoenix chapter of the National Association of the Remodeling Industry, and wrote Crush Expectations. Lorrie is our lead designer and Allied ASID. A Tempe bathroom of ours won NARI Contractor of the Year in 2017.
Hochuli Design & Remodeling Team is a boutique design build remodeling firm in Scottsdale, Arizona. Scott and Lorrie Hochuli founded it in 2001 and still run it, now with their son Devan. We have completed more than 500 projects across Phoenix, Scottsdale, Paradise Valley, Tempe, Chandler, Gilbert, Mesa, and Ahwatukee. Because we design and build under one roof, the plan and the price are made by the same people, which is the entire reason the price holds.
Hochuli Design & Remodeling Team, 2501 N. Hayden Rd, Suite #102, Scottsdale, AZ 85257. 602-451-0323. Arizona ROC 173428.
One team. One price. No surprises. Bring us the room you have been staring at, and we will build the plan with you.